Comments on: Promoting MS to RMS : USE WITH CAUTION!! http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution Microsoft technologies like: System Center Operations Manager, and whatever else comes up at the office. Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:12:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Brad Hearn http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution/comment-page-1#comment-501 Brad Hearn Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:00:57 +0000 http://bradstechblog.com/?p=13#comment-501 Hey Paul, Sorry about the delay, just getting back from vacation. Have you found a solution to this yet? Is the reporting server and DW in the same cluster? "and removal of the old RMS when you do this" I bit of a typo with poor crammer. When you promote the MS to RMS. You also need to make sure you have confirmed that the RMS is completely removed from SCOM before you can promote it again. Hopefully your are already healthy, let me know if you want to discuss this more. Brad Hey Paul,

Sorry about the delay, just getting back from vacation. Have you found a solution to this yet?

Is the reporting server and DW in the same cluster?

“and removal of the old RMS when you do this” I bit of a typo with poor crammer. When you promote the MS to RMS. You also need to make sure you have confirmed that the RMS is completely removed from SCOM before you can promote it again.

Hopefully your are already healthy, let me know if you want to discuss this more.

Brad

]]> By: chaunteclear http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution/comment-page-1#comment-500 chaunteclear Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:54:53 +0000 http://bradstechblog.com/?p=13#comment-500 Hi Brad, I made the unenviable mistake of desinstalling Scom on the passive node of our RMS cluster. I tried reinstalling but the rms key must have been stale. Then I couldn't connect to the Scom console when either clustered node was the RMS cluster. So, I ran the msiexec.exe /i CREATE_NEWKEY=1 I could then connect to the Scom console and see alerts in the console but emailing and paging seems to be broken. One of the clustered management servers is grey in under "management server" and listed as an RMS. Clearly this is a bad sign. So, with that said do we need to promote a management server to the RMS. Then deinstall Scom on both RMS. Reinstall and create the cluster resources. And promote the cluster virtual name. Your last note says: "and removal of the old RMS when you do this". What does that mean? If you have exact instructions, that would be great, since I'm not feeling lucky lately. Thanks, Paul Hi Brad,

I made the unenviable mistake of desinstalling Scom on the passive node of our RMS cluster. I tried reinstalling but the rms key must have been stale. Then I couldn’t connect to the Scom console when either clustered node was the RMS cluster.

So, I ran the msiexec.exe /i CREATE_NEWKEY=1

I could then connect to the Scom console and see alerts in the console but emailing and paging seems to be broken.

One of the clustered management servers is grey in under “management server” and listed as an RMS. Clearly this is a bad sign.

So, with that said do we need to promote a management server to the RMS. Then deinstall Scom on both RMS. Reinstall and create the cluster resources.

And promote the cluster virtual name. Your last note says: “and removal of the old RMS when you do this”. What does that mean?

If you have exact instructions, that would be great, since I’m not feeling lucky lately.

Thanks,
Paul

]]> By: Brad Hearn http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution/comment-page-1#comment-494 Brad Hearn Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:02:29 +0000 http://bradstechblog.com/?p=13#comment-494 Hi Chris, Promoting is a simple task. But make sure you follow the steps. If done wrong it can create more issues for you when you are ready to bring the original RMS online. If you need to promote your MS due to a full cluster loss. And you plan to return to the cluster after it has been resorted. Then you will need to to promote the virtual RMS only. Do not promote the nodes. If you were to do this you could introduce multiple RMS's into AD and will been then be stuck with the ugly job of cleaning up SPN's. If you need to rebuild the cluster. You would promote to the MS first. Make sure you perform a full promotion and removal of the old RMS when you do this. Rebuild your cluster and then promote it again. Send me a note if you have any questions through this. Brad Hi Chris, Promoting is a simple task. But make sure you follow the steps. If done wrong it can create more issues for you when you are ready to bring the original RMS online. If you need to promote your MS due to a full cluster loss. And you plan to return to the cluster after it has been resorted. Then you will need to to promote the virtual RMS only. Do not promote the nodes. If you were to do this you could introduce multiple RMS’s into AD and will been then be stuck with the ugly job of cleaning up SPN’s.

If you need to rebuild the cluster. You would promote to the MS first. Make sure you perform a full promotion and removal of the old RMS when you do this. Rebuild your cluster and then promote it again. Send me a note if you have any questions through this.

Brad

]]> By: Chris Rundle http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution/comment-page-1#comment-493 Chris Rundle Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:47:26 +0000 http://bradstechblog.com/?p=13#comment-493 If the RMS is clustered, but both nodes go down (network failure, rack destruction etc) and you promote a MS to be the temporary RMS, when the cluster is bought back online, do BOTH nodes need to be demoted/promoted to RMS, or just the virtual RMS? Same question applies if the cluster needs to be rebuilt - in that case there would still be a clustered MS to demote/promote. Thanks. If the RMS is clustered, but both nodes go down (network failure, rack destruction etc) and you promote a MS to be the temporary RMS, when the cluster is bought back online, do BOTH nodes need to be demoted/promoted to RMS, or just the virtual RMS? Same question applies if the cluster needs to be rebuilt – in that case there would still be a clustered MS to demote/promote.
Thanks.

]]> By: Paul Theuma http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution/comment-page-1#comment-476 Paul Theuma Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:55:05 +0000 http://bradstechblog.com/?p=13#comment-476 Do you know if they have sorted this out in SP2 or hav eyou tried it as yet. Cheers Do you know if they have sorted this out in SP2 or hav eyou tried it as yet.
Cheers

]]> By: max inglis http://bradstechblog.com/scom/promoting-ms-to-rms-use-with-caution/comment-page-1#comment-3 max inglis Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:02:44 +0000 http://bradstechblog.com/?p=13#comment-3 I love it when the MS tech guys haven't actually tried this stuff themselves... I love it when the MS tech guys haven’t actually tried this stuff themselves…

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